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    A year ago I set out to find what the semi-fluid lube in the closed steering knuckle of a 1988 Toyota land cruiser, It all started when I called the local dealership and asked what this was. Well I could tell I was not getting the straight scoop from the service manager, and what was indicated to use in the FSM didnt add up. It states to use a molybedendum disulphate lithium chassis grease #2, this term as I found out thru a oil and grease supplier is a rather vague term, This additive is found in all sorts of lube anything from oil or grease of any base and in its pure form used as a dry lube,

    I knew something of this sort had to exist since I had seen this form of lube in a viscous coupler but had no idea what it was only that its characteristics where not what you normally encounter with oil, or grease

    So I began reading in a old Motors manual to see what the manufactures used in the 60,and 70's. Ford stated to use 1/2 pint of the "proper lube" International indicated to use a viscous chassis lube, Dodge's term was "short fiber wheel bearing lube" all these terms still left me wondering what in the world this lube was, but did conclude that this was a fluid lube from these terms,

    Then knowing that this design can be traced back to the WWII era vehicles I acquired a old Jeep book, In it I found the answer, sodium based lubes where used at the factory for initial fill, a #1 or #0 sodium based grease depending on temp.
    In the #0 form this is a semi fluid lube, so I began trying to find some of this lube it took a while but I did find some the only way it I was able to get it is in bulk so I saved my pennies and ordered some and sure enough this was the stuff,
    In my research I found that Dodge,s term was the best clue as well ''short fiber" is a term associated with the soda soap greases which is another term for sodium based

    In reading up on this base of lube it is used in area,s that are prone to leakage and where high service intervals can be obtained, and in this application a slight amount of discharge is desirable to coat the exposed steel ball with a film of lube to prevent rusting and pitting,

    Some how this form of lube has made its way down thru history and winds up in odd places, The only reason I have seen that it is no longer widely used is that it is incompatible with any other base of grease, seldom seen and rarely used is how I have seen it described, and I may add even more so misidentified, This form of grease is mostly misdiagnosed as axle seal failure in the closed knuckle application, which is understandable it has that appearance, the only reason that I thought twice about it is because I had seen it in a application where cross contamination could be ruled out. Thanks Frank

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    Short Fiber Wheel Bearing Lube

    I read your information with great interest. Could you please identify the lube by name and the quantity you had to purchase it in? Thanks.......Keith.

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    • #3
      Semi fluid grease

      I have used a form of the semi fluid grease ( actually in a Dough mixer transmission)
      The trade name was Marfak
      I believe it was a 0 weight
      The Hobart Dealer Stocked it in small containers.

      Here is the Matweb description of Marfak
      http://www.matweb.com/search/datashe...9a9b7051368b84
      Last edited by Chris Olson; 04-21-2010, 04:47 PM. Reason: new link

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      • #4
        Using semi-fluid grease is actually fairly common in certain applications on heavy trucks. Many people will run 00 grease in steer and trailer axle hubs to slow down leaks. Up here in the arctic we usually only run it in the summer, or in around-town trucks that don`t see extended cold weather, as it will lock up just as bad as normal grease in severe cold. I like it because it can be run in applications designed for grease, without running right past the seals like gear oil.

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        • #5
          Marfak #0

          The Texeco Brand Marfak

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          • #6
            John Deere sells a NGL # 0 I believe and they call it "corn head grease"

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            • #7
              yep corn head

              corn head grease is a polyurea base.,

              This post is a good example.
              Location: Vancouver B.C.
              Posts: 103

              Semi fluid grease
              I have used a form of the semi fluid grease ( actually in a Dough mixer transmission)
              The trade name was Marfak
              I believe it was a 0 weight
              The Hobart Dealer Stocked it in small containers.

              Hobart is commercial grade those in the Food service industry can be going to walmat every 6 months and buying a new mixer, they need products that last,

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              • #8
                So,

                1. where on a Power Wagon is the practical application of this grease? I am thinking about steering knuckles and steering boxes. Is this correct?

                2. is this the type of grease that one would find in the old ball and trunnion driveshaft u-joints?

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                • #9
                  grease application

                  yes for the steering knuckle, and for the manual steering gearbox I would think, in regards to that I have read this form of grease is found in the Dodge viper steering system, also in some applications for the rear differential wheel bearings as well,

                  As for the ball and trunion u-joint I am unfamiliar with those terms.

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                  • #10
                    The ball and trunnion u-joint is a common Mopar driveshaft joint from the 30's to the mid 60's. It is not seen on 4wd trucks. I have ruined several by using modern lubricants. It is very hard to find replacement parts for these joints. The original lube seems to be a cross between a grease and an oil. It has tremendous clinging power.

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                    • #11
                      ball and tunnion

                      well from the sounds of it this would be the lube for that application, one of its attributes is that it has good adhesion characteristics and in the #0 form a semifluid,

                      learn something new all the time when it comes to rigs, thanks Frank

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                      • #12
                        Here ya go.
                        Now you know what it looks like.
                        TGP
                        Attached Files
                        WDX & Misc. Pics.
                        http://www.t137.com/cpg/index.php?cat=10010
                        "47" Dodge WDX WW
                        "52" Dodge M-37 WW
                        "54" Willys M38A1
                        "65" Kaiser M35A1 WW
                        "77" Chev. K-30 400T,205,4.56 "No-Spin"
                        "84" Chev, K-30 Cummins 6-BTA 400,205,3.73Locker
                        "86" Chev, M1028A2 (K30) 6.2,400.205,4.56 Locker
                        "99" Dodge Durango "Limited Slip"
                        "99" Dodge 3500 CTD 4x4"No-Spin"

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                        • #13
                          Marfak #0

                          OK. Now that I've digested all of this and other research, I conclude the following. The Marfak #0 lubricant is appropriate for the the upper trunion bushing (or bearing if used in place of the bushing); the lower trunion bearing; both inner and outer hub bearings (conventional brake shoe set-up); the large universal joint inside of the steering flanges; and the universal joints on the drive shafts. Do I have anything wrong here? I certainly appreciate the experience and advice the good folks on this site share with us novices.....Keith.

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                          • #14
                            Yep

                            That about sums it up, Hartman

                            you may want to notify the website, your post counter doesnt seem to be working,

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                            • #15
                              Marfak #0

                              I have tried all morning to find a source for Marfak #0 grease here in Houston. Finally called the Texaco/Chevron Lube Tech Line and talked with the company. They haven't made this product for years. Is there an acceptable alternative/comparable product? Thanks.....Keith.

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