I need a little help here on my 1966 WM-300 251 engine, the radiator has started expelling water / antifreeze from under the radiator cap and over flow tube. This seems to only happen at 20 MPH and above. Ideling is fine, water temp 170-180 degrees. Any help would be appreciated.
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A little more investigation is in order; but it sure sounds like the head gasket may have blown into a water port. This pressurizes the cooling system via engine compression and forces water out the over flow tube like turning on a faucet.Originally posted by Bob2 View PostI need a little help here on my 1966 WM-300 251 engine, the radiator has started expelling water / antifreeze from under the radiator cap and over flow tube. This seems to only happen at 20 MPH and above. Ideling is fine, water temp 170-180 degrees. Any help would be appreciated.
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That would indicate it is not simply a case of overfilling. Charles is steering you in the right direction. The upside of all this is that it is not a difficult head to remove.Originally posted by Bob2 View PostCharles / Gordon the water is consistently blowing out.Power Wagon Advertiser monthly magazine, editor & publisher.
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My vote is on this ^ as well.Originally posted by Charles Talbert View PostA little more investigation is in order; but it sure sounds like the head gasket may have blown into a water port. This pressurizes the cooling system via engine compression and forces water out the over flow tube like turning on a faucet.
An easy test that may show you is to run the engine with the radiator cap off. Get it warmed up so that the thermostat is open (if you have one that is). Watch the water flowing through the upper tank as the engine is run at varying speeds. If the head gasket is gone you will probably see little bubbles popping up which is really compression lost into the water jacket. You can try to do a cooling system pressure test, but sometimes it is very hard to tell where the coolant goes, especially if it is a small leak.
The parts are cheap enough, and heads are easy enough to pull you may just yank that sucker and give it the good ol visual inspection and you will probably discover a trail from a water passage to a cylinder.
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I am conservative with castings. Having it checked for cracks is a good idea. As for surfacing, I would only do it if necessary. No need to grind material away if the head is flat and not abraded. Also look at the block deck and check it for flatness.Originally posted by Bob2 View PostThanks for all the info. I guess my next step is to pull the head and replace the gasket. Would it be advisable to have the head magnafluxed and planed while it is off?Power Wagon Advertiser monthly magazine, editor & publisher.
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Definitely have it magnafluxed; I always surface the head in cases such as I expect you will find. There is usually a reason why the gasket failed, and that is usually a flaw in the head surface. I wouldn't think of running the risk of putting it back on and blowing another one. A good machinist will only take what material is necessary to get flat again, seldom when you check one closely do you find it perfectly flat. The deck is generally not an issue, but by all means check it to be sure. I wouldn't be surprised if you can see a flaw in yours without looking too hard.
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There is a key word in your language, good machinist.Originally posted by Charles Talbert View PostDefinitely have it magnafluxed; I always surface the head in cases such as I expect you will find. There is usually a reason why the gasket failed, and that is usually a flaw in the head surface. I wouldn't think of running the risk of putting it back on and blowing another one. A good machinist will only take what material is necessary to get flat again, seldom when you check one closely do you find it perfectly flat. The deck is generally not an issue, but by all means check it to be sure. I wouldn't be surprised if you can see a flaw in yours without looking too hard.Power Wagon Advertiser monthly magazine, editor & publisher.
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Bob,
Napa should have the head gasket. I don't know the part # but if you give them the specs they can look it up. Bring the head gasket with you.
I would drain down the system as soon as possible because a blown head gasket will let water drip into the cylinder which can cause corrosion or worse yet, a hydro lock, if enough water gets into the cylinder. This could lead to a bent connecting rod if you try to start the engine. Good luck and let us know what you find.
Joe
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Single edged razor blades are always in my toolbox for final checks of gasket surfaces. They are a great, yet simple, tool.Originally posted by QuantumJo View PostAvoid using any type of abrasive wheel / disk on the block or head. I use an old school razor blade to scrape all mating surfaces.Power Wagon Advertiser monthly magazine, editor & publisher.
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