Military Wrap Front Leaves.

[PapeCAT]

Greetings All!

I have a 1972 W200 that has seen a lot of backwoods work but I was curious if anyone here has seen any other powerwagon 1972-1993 with Military Wrap springs on the front spring mount.

My W200 has a 5 leaf pack on the fronts, with two equal sized leaves on the top, both of which wrap around the front spring eyelet...

Just curious if this is a custom job or if some of these came from the factory this way...

Pic below:

[712edf]

Possibly a crewcab thing.

[74w300uteline]

nope, no double wraps here

74 w300's six pac single wrap.
77 m880 w 200 three pac single wrap. that was a letdown I expected to find more beef.
712edf may be on to something there with the crew suggestion. I have a 75 w200 crew out at Rons place. I hope it has the double wrap. seems like overkill but thats what I prefer. too much is just enough. hey Ron could you take a peek under "Miss Canyon Rose".
Would a heavier 400/ 440 motor require more springs???

[74w300uteline]

now you got me looking

should the front spring packs be 180 degrees flat? I hope so because all three that I looked at are flat level.

[Ron in Indiana]

74 w300's six pac single wrap.
77 m880 w 200 three pac single wrap. that was a letdown I expected to find more beef.
712edf may be on to something there with the crew suggestion. I have a 75 w200 crew out at Rons place. I hope it has the double wrap. seems like overkill but thats what I prefer. too much is just enough. hey Ron could you take a peek under "Miss Canyon Rose".
Would a heavier 400/ 440 motor require more springs???

Man it's always something with you isn't it? LOL Yeah if I remember to look I'll check it out that is if the CRS doesn't set in. ha ha.

[PapeCAT]

From what I understand as far as the diesel W trucks 1989-1993 at least the Front leaves should be neutral to slightly negative arch from the factory / stock...

Even my W250 Diesel Club Cab has single wrap!!

The Crew in question had a 360 in it from the factory, so the 400/440 theory is out...

[712edf]

should the front spring packs be 180 degrees flat? I hope so because all three that I looked at are flat level.

When new should have slight positive arch (bent upwards on the ends), then they sag til flat, then finally may get a negative arch. 90's Ford 4x4's (250 & up) came new with negative arch.

My 78 club cab W200 has a dana 60 front and about 6 leafs per side. I think they are single wrap & yep they are flat. The rear eyelet is actually contacting the frame from the springs being mashed flat (thus elongating them).

Bucky

[712edf]

77 m880 w 200 three pac single wrap. that was a letdown I expected to find more beef.

M880's didn't even get the heaviest stuff offered on a W200, that being the Dana 60 front and 6 leaf springs. That 5/4 ton designation given by the military is typical of their nomenclature.

[RAMMAN4]

My 84 RC and my 73 crewcab all have standard wrap springs. I've got a set of chevy springs with a military wrap that will be going into the crew though.

[wmauctions]

Same Here

I have a 880 1976 w200 5/4 with the same set up..!

[PapeCAT]

oh wow your m880 has the military wrap springs? My 1972 W200 Crew has sagged to slightly negative arch even after adding a 6th leaf from the 1990 W250 Diesel... But the rig is almost done drivetrain wise... Just need to do the interior , HVAC and MAYBE a bit of body...

[Deathdeelr]

My '77 880 originally had those military wrap springs and 3 leaves with a negative arch.

[Freeze Plug]

I am picking up a 1972 W200 which was a national guard factory plow truck, has the double springs in question. Though only a D44 in front, surprisingly! I would have thought a factory military plow truck would have had the D60 :(

I am getting it sometime next week. If I recall, it has at least 5 springs up front

[KRB64]

oh wow your m880 has the military wrap springs? My 1972 W200 Crew has sagged to slightly negative arch even after adding a 6th leaf from the 1990 W250 Diesel... But the rig is almost done drivetrain wise... Just need to do the interior , HVAC and MAYBE a bit of body...

PEPECAT - what turbo is that? And did you make that intake elbow?

Back on topic (kinda):
I thought all diesels started off with an arch but then sagged to negative no?

[712edf]

I am picking up a 1972 W200 which was a national guard factory plow truck, has the double springs in question. Though only a D44 in front, surprisingly! I would have thought a factory military plow truck would have had the D60 :(

I am getting it sometime next week. If I recall, it has at least 5 springs up front

The 60 front wasn't available til 1975.....Only 44's & 70's were offered in 72.

Bucky