What Trans Do I Have?

[Big Block 'Wagon]

Ive got a 1969 440 Big Block powered PW, with two trans. I know one is a TF727, but the truck also came with a 4 speed, which is what I want to use. The only problem is that I need the small plate that holds the throwout bearing, and Im not sure what to look for because Im not sure what trans it is. The only idea that I have is that it may be an A833.

Any help on identifying it?

[Gordon Maney]

It is probably a New Process 435.

Small plate, you say. Do you have the release lever?

I would urge you to scout around for a service manual for the truck, and possibly a parts manual. You would find them to be very useful.

[Big Block 'Wagon]

Well the thing is, the truck is sitting on an older chassis. Its got a split transfer case, if that helps. Mostly Military driveline. Im not sure about the release lever, what is that?

[Gordon Maney]

Well the thing is, the truck is sitting on an older chassis. Its got a split transfer case, if that helps. Mostly Military driveline. Im not sure about the release lever, what is that?

The truck is sitting on an older chassis. You mean the 1969 truck is sitting on an older chassis?

If I am getting the split part, that is WWII, and a totally different, non-synchro transmission, and you don't want to use that in a 1969 era vehicle. That would be a step backward.

[Big Block 'Wagon]

The truck is sitting on an older chassis. You mean the 1969 truck is sitting on an older chassis?

If I am getting the split part, that is WWII, and a totally different, non-synchro transmission, and you don't want to use that in a 1969 era vehicle. That would be a step backward.

Yes, the body is on id say an early 60's chassis. Its got a PTO winch, if that helps identify anything. Id love to find some serial numbers on the chassis, and trans to look up, but the truck is currently about 30 minutes away at my grampas.

[Gordon Maney]

What do you mean by split transfer case?

[Big Block 'Wagon]

Scratch that, sorry. I was misinformed. I think it was divorced? Does that make more sense?

[Gordon Maney]

Divorced simply means there is a drive shaft between the transfer case and the transmission. That is true of Dodge over a very wide range of years.

[Hobcobble]

Yes, the body is on id say an early 60's chassis. Its got a PTO winch, if that helps identify anything. Id love to find some serial numbers on the chassis, and trans to look up, but the truck is currently about 30 minutes away at my grampas.

Drop by and visit your Grandad. When you're there, look at the
frame rail on the right front. Somewhere on that portion of frame
[above the axle], you'll find the VIN#. You can then go to:
www.sweptline.com where the VIN# can be decoded to give
you the year of your frame. As '69 was the year that Sweptlines
changed from hydraulic to mechanical clutches, identifying exactly
what you're working with is crucial. Other design changes were
implemented in the '69 model year as well such as wiring harness,
steering column, dashboard design, etc.. If possible, post up some
pics of the undercarriage and the body too. The standard 4spd tranny for
the '65-'71 was the NP435. The spline count changed from ten to
twenty-three in '69. The bell housing cross member was phased out
in '69 as well in favor of a tail housing cross member.
John

[Hobcobble]

'69 was the first year for the NP205 single stick
transfer case. The twin stick NP201 was used from
'61 through '68. Forgot to mention that above....
John

[Big Block 'Wagon]

Drop by and visit your Grandad. When you're there, look at the
frame rail on the right front. Somewhere on that portion of frame
[above the axle], you'll find the VIN#. You can then go to:
www.sweptline.com where the VIN# can be decoded to give
you the year of your frame. As '69 was the year that Sweptlines
changed from hydraulic to mechanical clutches, identifying exactly
what you're working with is crucial. Other design changes were
implemented in the '69 model year as well such as wiring harness,
steering column, dashboard design, etc.. If possible, post up some
pics of the undercarriage and the body too. The standard 4spd tranny for
the '65-'71 was the NP435. The spline count changed from ten to
twenty-three in '69. The bell housing cross member was phased out
in '69 as well in favor of a tail housing cross member.
John

Thank you very much. This is really useful info. I have found out today that the trans is in fact a New Process 435. Im not sure about the transfer case. I think it is a single stick.

[Hobcobble]

Thank you very much. This is really useful info. I have found out today that the trans is in fact a New Process 435. Im not sure about the transfer case. I think it is a single stick.

More than likely, it'll be the NP205 t-case.
John