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    I have found a treasure. It is a piece of 1 inch plate, measuring 60" x 65", and it has a 20" square cut out of one corner. I intend to use it as part of a ballast box I am going to build for my larger tractor, and I am not going to waste any of it. I got this marvelous piece of steel for $100.

    Years ago I bought a 3-point hitch mounted, hydraulically operated boom from a man in his early 80's. He had been a pipefitter and welder all of his life. He had a lot of interesting things in his shop that he had built. All that I saw was reminiscent of a welding class I had taken many years ago, when the instructor, a man named Willard Anderson, said there were two kinds of torch cuts, the junk yard cut and the welding shop cut. The hydraulic boom was fabricated in this way, as was a huge iron sawhorse that I bought from him. It is a nice thing to look at, seeing his cutting skills and his welding skills.

    Willard taught us how to make beautiful cuts, smooth and slag free. It was his idea that you should be able to do heavy plate fabrication very nicely if you have an acetylene torch and of course a welder. Willard also taught us how to make round holes with a torch, and that is with no sort of pilot hole. The method does not work for small holes, but larger ones are great. To do smaller holes it is best to drill a pilot hole to start the cut.

    Years ago, my grandfather worked in and ultimately ran the steel shop at an Allis Chalmers plant in Cedar Rapids. All of their burning, as he called it, was done with hand torches and templates.

    Over the years I have done a lot of cutting with straight edges of angle iron, what a former employer called a coffee can radius. Using the curve of a coffee can to make nicely radiused corners. I always would save various pieces of plate and pipe to maintain an assortment of radii for possible use, and remarkably, the end products were impressive to folks who did not know how the cuts were accomplished.

    I am considering making a template for round holes, to cheat a bit, using a piece of heavy plate with a hole in it, keeping in mind that you have to increase the template size by 1/2 of the torch kerf's width. I am curious if anyone here has made such templates, and what you may have learned in the process.
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    Why is it that the inside of old truck cabs smell so good?

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    Re: Heavy plate fabrication

    " a man named Willard Anderson, said there were two kinds of torch cuts, the junk yard cut and the welding shop cut. "

    Alas, I fear I may fall into the former catagory. My plate cutting skills are less than polished...but I'm a wiz with the grinder!
    1949 B-1 PW (Gus)
    1955 C-3 PW (Woodrow)
    2001 Dodge 2500 (Dish...formerly Maney's Mopar)
    1978 Suzuki GS1000EC (fulfills the need...the need for speed)
    1954 Ford 860 tractor
    1966 Chrysler LS 16 sailboat (as yet un-named)
    UVA UVAM VIVENDO VARIA FITS

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    • #3
      "Grinder Club"

      I guess that makes me a member of the grinder club. I'm sure that we are many lol ! Gordon, how goes the fabbing of your tractor appliance?

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      • #4
        I have not started yet. I need to get some more steel; the rest of the box I will make out of 1/2 inch plate, and it will have a lid made of either 10 gauge steel or 3/16 inch aluminum tread plate.

        I want to also use it for carrying my chainsaws and related items, and an assortment of chains and slings. I think it will be a fun project.
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        Why is it that the inside of old truck cabs smell so good?

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        • #5
          I'm thinking some 1" thick steel knee guards would be nice also! ha!ha!
          How's the "training" injury coming along?
          MN

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          • #6
            cutting and welding

            I learned (what little I know) about cutting and welding from
            an old man that I worked for on a farm. He watched as I cut
            a piece of plate and then beat it apart with a hammer. I then
            welded a piece of galvanized pipe too it. He looked at it and
            said That looks like sewing up a bulls butt with a grapevine!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MoparNorm
              I'm thinking some 1" thick steel knee guards would be nice also! ha!ha!
              How's the "training" injury coming along?
              MN
              It is all healed!
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              Why is it that the inside of old truck cabs smell so good?

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              • #8
                This is the plate. I have decided I like this so much, and it would be nice to have such a large surface upon which to setup weldments, that I am now thinking about not cutting it, but saving it for a work surface instead....
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                • #9
                  Gordon,...

                  Great Plate! (just be sure that the hi-octane fuel storage legs are replaced with something else before you start the torch!!ha!ha!)
                  MN

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                  • #10
                    ...I like the inside corner! That will come in handy for many jigging operations. If nothing else, it will let you reach farther into the table...

                    DAB
                    1949 B-1 PW (Gus)
                    1955 C-3 PW (Woodrow)
                    2001 Dodge 2500 (Dish...formerly Maney's Mopar)
                    1978 Suzuki GS1000EC (fulfills the need...the need for speed)
                    1954 Ford 860 tractor
                    1966 Chrysler LS 16 sailboat (as yet un-named)
                    UVA UVAM VIVENDO VARIA FITS

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                    • #11
                      Gordon,
                      Good score on the plate!
                      We buy a lot of plate here & even our price on that plate new is $250. According to my calculations it weighs 992lbs.
                      We have a fantastic device here for cutting circles. It's the easiest thing in the world to make & it cuts perfect holes.
                      I'll get a picture of it later today & post it for you.
                      You'd love it around here...we don't have many mechanical tools but we've been Shipbuilding since 1923 & so there are many many generations of tools, inventions & gadgets...most of them handmade.
                      It's amazing what you can learn talking to the older guys that worked here in the 40's.

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                      • #12
                        Jack Tomlin's target

                        The first time I visited Jack Tomlin's Ordnance Depot in Tooele, Utah, he had a large piece of steel plate hanging from a set of gin poles on a 2-ton truck. That plate was about 6 inches thick and had 2 craters in it that went nearly through the plate. He was using the plate as a target for his 30mm cannon! Jack was making his own hand loads for the 30mm and was testing them out. He also had a Chzech half track with a 50mm Browning mounted on it. He said we should do a little jack rabbit hunting with it some day. If you ever get a chance to meet Jack Tomlin, you'll be glad you did. He's one tough old feller and is very interesting to talk to.

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                        • #13
                          50mm!?

                          Russ,

                          Lord Almighty, I'm pretty sure you meant 50 caliber!

                          50mm is almost TWO INCHES in diameter (and Browning didn't make any MGs in that bore size).

                          Yes, Jack is a character, and has been a good friend to the Dodge and Military Vehicle collectors (and Nuts like me), and I hope you all get a chance to meet and talk to him.

                          Mark Coffin

                          One of Jack's old MV customers

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                          • #14
                            Off Topic

                            Hey Doc,
                            Did you have any luck with that bed screw? I hadn't heard anything from you since I sent you that sample?
                            TTYL,

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                            • #15
                              Bed Screw

                              Bruce,

                              Never got it! When did you send it? EMail me offline and we'll try to sort this out.

                              doc_coffin@yahoo.com

                              Mark

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