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  • #16
    Originally posted by Mike Mc View Post
    If every thing is tight one the 75. I would stick with the original plan.
    After re-examining the pictures. I'm stunned Dodge didn't make any changes for so many years. No wonder sales dropped.

    I also see what your saying about the cooler being in the center of the radiator support.

    This is what I measured
    5.9 34" adding little extra so debris doesn't build up between the firewall.
    electric fans 4"
    radiator 3"
    cooler 3"
    condenser 2"

    I came up with 46". I tried to be generous on my measurements. Realizing there is always a problem...... You will save a little by not having the condenser.

    Good Luck and keep posting!!!!

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    • #17
      Hello Mike, I'm going to post a bunch of pictures with tape meausure

      Thanks for all the help. Have a look at my site, more pictures of the under hoods on both trucks with tape measure and more.

      Cheers for now

      Reg

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      • #18
        Originally posted by MoparNorm View Post
        Does the '92 have an intercooler?
        MN

        Yes, its intercooled, small intercooler under rad support, where nothing else lives in the 75, all should bolt right up more or less, the cummins rad will not fit under stock 75 hood and frame, so I can use the 92 rad support and mod a rad for this support or just build my own rad and IC for the stock 75 rad support, then head light buckets will be right with no mod's, or mix mathing of rad support hood line will fit, wide low thick rad rather than, high narrow thin rad.

        Thanks for all your help MoparNorm.

        Reg Riemer
        of
        www.monsterhorsepower.com

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        • #19
          I just re-installed the radiator on my '67 Town Wagon for the engine swap. Had forgotten I swapped radiators years ago. When I swapped I decided to cut down the mounting wings on the radiator so that it fit 3" farther forward in front of the radiator support factory brackets. You only need about 1" of bracketry on each side to mount when using some of those self tapping hex screws, about 6 per side. Too cold and dark to go out and look at my '90 Ram right now, but you might be able to do something similar?

          Other than being something to mount the grill, lights and fenders to the radiator support can be modified to any desired configuration. Just saying a hot saw and a MIG can do wonders for clearance problems...

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          • #20
            I think the frame crossmember is right below the cummins rad

            I will look at this closer but I think its custom rad for me!

            Reg

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            • #21
              Well I was wrong the rad does indeed fit under the stock 1975 hood and rad support, as does the shroud. I have updated the site with a bunch of new info for any that are interested in the swap.

              Reg

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              • #22
                Hello all.

                News!! due to weather and a sudden customer cancel, my cummins project is top of the list! Tomorrow the project starts, we are pulling the CTD driveline in the morning, right after a quick last Dyno pull in the 92. I will post dyno movies and pic's tomorrow night to my 75 D200 Club Cab 2wd Cummins swap web site.

                We are moving all the Cummins warning light panel, od lock out, cruise, into the 75 dash right where the optional tach went in the 75. As for the interiors the 75 has the much higher quality interior, my 75 is an Adventure SE and has all the stainless steel trims, head liner, side panels, nice quality door panels with stainless and wood trim, very classic and classy. The 92 feels like plastic junk inside, the door panels and dash are one piece hard plastic, floor is the oil patch style rubber, etc. Not even in the same class as the Adventure SE. I will post pictures. In fact the sound and feel of the doors closing and the entire truck is much nicer than the 92, maybe a more loaded up 92 would be better but the plastic is too much in this one.

                Cheers for now.

                thanks for all you input.

                Reg
                8)

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                • #23
                  Great!
                  Take plenty of photos and keep us posted.
                  MN

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                  • #24
                    Site updated with start of project dyno movie and slideshow!

                    News!!

                    The 1975 Dodge D200 Club Cab 2wd Cummins swap web site is updated! Dyno run movies, swap has started pictures and tear down link;

                    The swap project has started. Today Warren used his 1991 Toyota 4Runner to tow our frozen solid non starting 1 Gen 1992 D250 into the RCTS shop. After lunch at the Dragon Pearl restaurant we arrived back at the shop to start up our now thawed out 1992 D250 Dodge Cummins truck. This next runs on the RCTS Dynojet will be the last miles for the 92 truck with a diesel engine!

                    slideshow movies and dyno runs up at;

                    http://web.mac.com/rctscanadainc/

                    Amazingly the 1992 CTD made more than her rated power at the rear wheels. More amazing an hour later when we took the intake pipe is off and found her turbo wheel is very hard to turn. Any one with feedback on how the 1 generation 12 valve cummins turbo spins is invited to let us know. This does not seem right to me? Watch the video below and let me know what you think.

                    In any case fantastic power. As we looked at the 1gen 92 on the lift the extent of the rust is very apparent. Poor old truck. I think we will put the 75 360 auto and Dana 60 back into this 92 so she can be our shops dirt truck.

                    Reg
                    Last edited by rcts; 11-25-2006, 10:14 AM. Reason: Link did not work correclty

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                    • #25
                      Could be the prior owner coked the bearings in the turbo. Far as I know it should spine freely and have virtually no end play on shaft. Just get a HTT Stage IV and be done with it ha haha! You being a fellow hotrodder will no doubt want to extract all the power you can out of it and a turbo upgrade is a very good move, as you know... Is that a Holset H1C, HY35 or HX35? Wastegated? I'm thinking a '92 still uses an H1CW-G. They're okay for a bone stocker, or a 4BT, but rather limited huffing up a strong 6BT. If you're not towing then an HTT Stage IV with a 12cm exhaust housing might be the ticket.

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                      • #26
                        What turbo to buy? what upgrades do I need? What upgrades really work?

                        Hello again, my 12 has no waste gate it just makes what it makes for boost, when you guys upgrade these do you add a wastegate well.
                        Yes I think its hooped as well, it's working fine as you can see on the dyno graph but it must be taking for ever to spool up. end play is nill, the hp and torque is on the money, but the turbo is too tight. Would you buy a turbo from?

                        I don't want to make a racer out of this truck, BUT I don't want to just rebuild whats there if I can get a better new turbo. Also I don't want to mess up my economy.

                        Who would you buy pump and injectors from? I don't want home made junk, but nice new parts that work.

                        What to do to get a nice clean tune, no extra smoke, is there a shop that sells a complete kit that is properly tuned? when you bolt it on. This is how we do our car stuff, we build and sell completely setup systems so the customer can bolt it all together and have a properly setup system.


                        One of the other forum guys recomended this shop;

                        >Dave
                        >High Tech Turbo
                        >801 304 0700

                        Thanks

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                        • #27
                          Yes, I bought my turbo upgrade from HTT, High Tech Turbo. Very good products, good support and reasonable prices; does it get any better than that? I can check on injectors for you.

                          Will you be towing? As I understand it you want a strong street truck, a driver, not a full-blown hotrod? Can be done very easily, and suprisingly, very cheaply. Just a turbo upgrade, tweaking the injection pump, and bumping the pump timing will make a HUGE difference. mostly free except for turbo, and they're pretty cheap through HTT.

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                          • #28
                            Updates will be Daily now! to the 75 Dodge D200 Club Cab Cummins Swap site!

                            More movies & pictures up at the 1975 Dodge D200 Club Cab Cummins Swap site!. Cummins removed, tomorrow fuel cell and wiring harness’s. We are putting the 1975 360 2B back into the 92 Dodge X-CTD. Its -29C outside. I don't want to open the shop doors tomorrow for the 75 but we have to!

                            http://web.mac.com/rctscanadainc/iWeb/


                            Reg

                            P.s.
                            Updates will be daily now till compleation, if your interested have a look each day, we will keep on it now until we are under CTD power in the 75.
                            Last edited by rcts; 11-29-2006, 02:22 AM.

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                            • #29
                              And its comming along;

                              Have a look at the site day 4 is up now,

                              http://web.mac.com/rctscanadainc/

                              Project is going better than expected, these are great vehicles! 75 frame is strong enought to ram a ship!!

                              Reg

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                              • #30
                                The Cummins installed in the 75 D200 Club Cab 2WD!

                                Day 5 is up at the 75 D200 Cummins swap site

                                http://web.mac.com/rctscanadainc/iWeb

                                Reg

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