Biodiesel

[OLD DODGE]

If anyone is interested in biodiesel fuels there is an interesting article in the Sept/Oct 2007 issue of Back Home magazine. Some students at Appalachian State University built a system that runs off of solar power. They either recycle the byproducts or find uses for them (as opposed to dumping them in The Great Lakes like BP would do).

It makes you think if you had one of these systems on your farm you'd never have to go to a gas station again.

For more info....
www.biodiesel.appstate.edu


Kevin

[MoparNorm]

Don't forget to send the ATF your excise taxes or the Revenuers will be at your door....= )

[splummer]

Bio

big fine if you skip out on the taxs. whats the differance in price.up diesel is 2.81 and off road diesel was the same. whats wrong there.i would try running bio if it were avalible steve from western maine

[MoparNorm]

99.9% Bio is about $3.55 out here. P100 (canola and others) is around $2.15...or free if you have a friend with a restaurant, or a still....= )

[splummer]

No Bio Close By

althought i know someone about 3 hrs away in the process of getting set up to start processing bio. so norm what is the avage price of deisel in cal. i under stand using bio is envirmently friendly,but long term use is it friendly towards your engine.are people using bio running straight bio or are they mixing it with deisel and to what ratio. steve from western maine

[MoparNorm]

Diesel in SoCal is around $3.00 right now, $2.90-$3.15.
Your question shows the common confusion with bio and P (SVO) diesel fuels, let's explain:
Bio diesel is petroleum diesel blended with vegetable or animal oils, therefore it is already mixed with diesel. There are national standards for up to B20. The number after the B stands for the percentage of bio blended with petroleum diesel. ALL Chrysler (Chrysler-Jeep-Dodge) diesels, since 2005, come from the factory with B5 in the tank. Cummins has approved up to B20, with no warranty impacts. Diesels built after 2000 can run B99.9 with little issue. Since bio is highly detergent, it will flush any dirt and contaminants out of your fuel lines and tank, so you'll need to change your fuel filter after the first few tanks.
P fuel is 100% vegetable or animal oils. It is intended to be burned un-mixed, not blended with petroleum diesel.
Diesels were invented to run on vegetable oil, they were designed before there was petroleum diesel commercially available. The first diesel motor ran on peanut oil. Petroleum Diesel soon became available and not much was done with bio and P fuels until WWII.
You can go to your local fast food restaurant, buy or take their used frying oil, filter the particles out, pre-heat either the fuel or your motor to 165 degrees and run it just like that, no modifications whatsoever to your modern diesel motor. You can go to COSTCO, buy Canola oil and pour it right into your tank and drive it just like that.
Now, that being said, there are complications with P oils, such as tax consequences, and a few minor changes to your fuel delivery systems. We covered them at length with links to the bio diesel websites in another thread, which covers those issues. Basically you can convert any diesel motor to run on pure vegetable oil for about $750 in fuel system modifications, or you can start your motor on petroleum diesel and then switch to vegetable oil after about 5 minutes.

I looked for about 10 minutes! Man we have a lot of diesel threads!!! Anyway here is the link to SVO info:
http://www.goldenfuelsystems.com/index.php

[Sodbust]

Want to know why!

Hello,, you lug nuts!

Well I posted my pet project a week or longer in the diesel conversion page.. My W200 PW frame/ MB diesel engine, 51IHC cab and fenders. Well I felt I would be throwen overboard with such an item.. ( the cab on the W200 was beyound swiss cheese).

Well I have been pressing my farm growen sunflowers and run my farm off my own fuel.. Well almost.. Just about to hit the 8000 gallon mark the first of next week.

My veg oil setup, and non chemical way to go..

www.oilcrusher.5u.com

sodbust

[Sodbust]

Forgot the pictures!!

Well here are some snaps of my "plant"

sodbust

[Sodbust]

Dang.. dropped 2 pic,,

Try again

sodbust

[JimmieD]

Oh NOOoohh, wait 'til Norm see this haha! He and I have been discussing this for a while. I was just doing some reading on the subject and apparently there's a big difference in yield of oil per acre depending on what crop you harvest. I hadn't heard of using sunflower oil, sounds interesting. Some young fellas at a university did a camparison and the surprising result was that peanut oil as produced was about useless, being too thick and coagulated.

[MoparNorm]

Well here are some snaps of my "plant"

sodbust

Cool!
What is your yield (in gallons) per acre?

[Sodbust]

Weather, is the key,, and bugs!

Hello,

Anywhere from 40 to 100 gallons an acre.

Had some seeds that yeilded 1.5 gallons a 28 lb bushel last year,

Sodbust.

[splummer]

Thanks For The Info

looks like i need to study up on bio .thanks for all the info . we are a little slow here in maine steve from western maine