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    Waiting for my engine to find its way back to me I have a lot of time to clean up a lot of stuff on the truck.
    While crawling around under the truck I found a few odd wires that were yellow or blue. They were just looped over other wires or frame work and disapeared into holes in the cab or fire wall with no grommets or even tape for protection.
    I traced them out and found a small fuse block inside the battery box and tied into the interconector between the batterys.
    Tracing the other end I found one went to a switch dangling under the dash and then to a 12 volt electric fuel pump hidden up inside the frame. The other went to the heater also a 12 volt unit.
    I removed the line to the fuel pump and the sad looking pump.
    The heater I left in but ran a new and better line.
    I was concerned that I could accidentily leave the heater on and drain the batterys or battery in this case but the master power switch cuts off the negative to the frame so I guess its ok.
    The odd part is that all the wiring in the truck is new as are the BO lamps . Some one prior to me replaced a lot of stuff and did a nice job.
    Then added a hodge podge of crappy hook ups.
    I know after I die and my wife sells the truck some one will say " who the heck hooked up these turn signals"
    At least those wires are the right size and color and are bundled with the main harness running trough the truck.

  • #2
    It is amazing what some people will do when it comes to wiring! The same type of thing was done to the headlights and ignition switch on mine when I bought it. A toggle switch put in line for the ignition and another wire for 12 volt headlights.

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    • #3
      I know we all have to do some "field expediant" repairs now and then. But to just chop a hole in the cab shell with an ax and stick some wire through a jagged hole without even some tape to protect it???
      It just makes me wonder why would someone go through and do a nice job of re-wiring the entire truck with all the proper wires and conectors and then do such a crumby thing like chopping a hole for one or two more wires?
      I also found a 6 inch hole cut in the floor under the seat right over the speedometer cable take off. The metal was cut on 3 sides and peeled back like a sardine can.
      It looked like I could just roll it back and weld it.
      It turned out to all but impossible. I cut a new section and formed it and welded it in after sawing out the old section that looked like it was cut with the same ax that was used to run the wires.
      There is still one hole in the floor that has me guessing.
      It is a 1 1/2 diam hole neatly cut in the passenger side floor about two inches to the right of the transmition cover about where your left heel would be if you sat there. I thought it was an access hole to adjust something but there is nothing in that area that needs adjusting. My wife said "maybe its a peek hole ".
      I love her anyway.

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      • #4
        Maybe she said "pee hole"
        Tim ;)
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        • #5
          Lot O' Holes

          My pass seat base w/o battery box has had similar ax holes cut.
          The driver's base has a hole done by a hole saw, I guess they grew impatient & decided to "can opener" it. Before my knee surgery it was the center of my attention & welding skills.

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          • #6
            Ha Ha ha, maybe she did. Boy you would have to be a real good aim.

            But still I looked down where the hole is and there is nothing to see. I thought it was to get at a grease fitting or to lube the brake ratchet but there is nothing near it. I guess I will have to chalk it up to "go figure". I put an elevator bolt in it and a fender washer on the bottom and its closed now.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bruce View Post
              My pass seat base w/o battery box has had similar ax holes cut.
              The driver's base has a hole done by a hole saw, I guess they grew impatient & decided to "can opener" it. Before my knee surgery it was the center of my attention & welding skills.
              I am lucky in that I have two welders. One is a regurlar stick welder and the other is a wire welder that can be set way down to do thin steel . It is still a chalange to not blow through. I just hate it when you are almost done and then you hear the sickining hollow sound of blow through. Then its a million little kiss's to try and fill in the hole and some times you end up with what I call a BIRD SH*T WELD. But thats what grinders are for.

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              • #8
                Ax Holes

                A piece of flat copper might help prevent the blow through?
                I'm not a welder, but I play one in 'da shop.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bruce View Post
                  A piece of flat copper might help prevent the blow through?
                  I'm not a welder, but I play one in 'da shop.

                  Absolutely , if ya have one and if the item is flat and there is a way to clamp it up. My problem is that every time I weld thin stuff I figure I wont blow out.
                  I start out doing fine then I balk for a fraction of a second and bizap there she blows.

                  Thin stuff I like to braze but with the paint the under coating the oil fire is a big risk. I normally keep a soaking wet bath towel around just in case.

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                  • #10
                    Options

                    I have several large & small pieces of copper & because it's mailable it can be tapped into many configurations, then flattened for another job.

                    Originally posted by Kaiser2boy View Post
                    Absolutely , if ya have one and if the item is flat and there is a way to clamp it up. My problem is that every time I weld thin stuff I figure I wont blow out.
                    I start out doing fine then I balk for a fraction of a second and bizap there she blows.

                    Thin stuff I like to braze but with the paint the under coating the oil fire is a big risk. I normally keep a soaking wet bath towel around just in case.
                    This is always a good plan, the wet towel plus a good fire extinguisher are pretty handy things.

                    Bizap happens, alot!

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