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    About 4 years ago I found an M37 to restore in a neighboring state. It was a good deal financially and in very good shape for my needs. One problem though, is that it had no title (title was lost).

    The good part of this situation was that this fact kept the price down. The bad part I subsequently learned about is that with most states this situation puts you in a "catch 22", in that to get a new title you have to have an existing old title for them to go by.

    This situation can be a nightmare depending on the state. When I went to the DMV in my state, Maryland, I learned that I would have to basically hire a lawyer to file a writ before a judge to get the title. Expensive and a hassle to do.

    Thank goodness there was an alternative, a company called Broadway title. I used Broadway and was able to get a new title.

    The other day I happened to be looking at the Broadway website because I have recently been perusing eBay for a local M101 trailer. A lot of these military trailers are sold with only a bill of sale, no title, so I wanted to see what it would cost to get a title through Broadway.

    On the Broadway website now, they said that there were "new rules" that apparently came down from the state governments. Basically one of these new rules states that Broadway can no longer provide titles for military vehicles.

    Using Broadway to get a title on a civilian vehicle is legal in 41 of the 50 states currently. If interested I suggest you look at their website.

    But, all those military vehicles out there without at title...be careful if you buy them at this time and want to put them on the street!

  • #2
    Out of luck???

    Does this mean that getting a title for a former MV is impossible?

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    • #3
      I just checked for Georgia, looks like I won't need one because it's so old. Looks like 1986 and older vehicles don't need one.

      If you can, answer my previous question, though. It may be helpful for others.

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      • #4
        I would contact the dmv of your state and be patient. Most of the workers have never been asked this question. You might have to file a "writ of mandamus" which is a legal exercise to force the dmv to issue a title. But, I would not want to have to do that due to hassle and $.
        There may be other title services besides Broadway, I don't know.
        I do know that if I had a MV without a title, I would not wait to try and get a title, do it now as it is possible that as time goes on it might even be harder to do..

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        • #5
          it is relly hard in pa. when I was stationed up in NE I learned that there they had basically thrown out all the old titles older than like 10 years or someing. since most of them were not on the road. all you needed to get a title was a bill of sale. After all the difficulty in PA in my life I almost felt guilty just walking in ther with a handwritten bill of sale and a rubbing of the vin and walking out with a title. then since I was a pa resident I just transfered the title back to pa. I wish I had bought more junk when I was on active duty and taken advantage of this loop hole. it is like I was laundering titles. LOL

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          • #6
            Doc, the info posted tells me I was lucky to have gotten a title the way I did/when I did.

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            • #7
              Me too. I am afraid that many people will be suckered into buying a military vehicle only to find that they can't get a title now.

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              • #8
                MV Titles

                What about describing a M37 as a "Dodge pick up truck" and give the VIN?
                I'd think that most of the DMV personnel would not know the difference.

                A trailer can be described as a homebuilt trailer in VA. The DMV asks the owner to get a police officer to inspect the trailer and after they sign your form you can get a title. - Thats the way it was a few years ago.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Warren Watt View Post
                  What about describing a M37 as a "Dodge pick up truck" and give the VIN?
                  I'd think that most of the DMV personnel would not know the difference.

                  A trailer can be described as a homebuilt trailer in VA. The DMV asks the owner to get a police officer to inspect the trailer and after they sign your form you can get a title. - Thats the way it was a few years ago.
                  I think that is a good idea. In Iowa they have what is termed a bond title. You pay a bonding fee that pays for a bond awarded to any [hypothetical] actual owner who may come along after the fact. It seems to work pretty well.

                  Terming it an old Dodge truck sounds like a great, rational solution.
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